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Sorry, I haven't been on here for a while. Cringleman, there's no way that someone could possibly stand a chance to argue with that--and I won't even begin to. You won. And I lost. Good game. Just to throw this out to the other guy (though it has no relevance here at all) I never owned an iPod/mp3 player or even a cell phone in my life. I'm very square when it comes to Generation I products (we're passed Generation Y as far as I'm concerned)--I still prefer VHS tapes over DVD on any given day; nothing beats manually fast-forwarding material. I've been stuck on this page for a while--I've been having an dicussion with someone on MSN about sexuality and resisting temptation so let me just hit reply while I'm here. Sorry to waste your time reading this.

Who should be in the bottom three tonight: Jill Josh Toby (what the hell was that performance?) Who it will be: Jill Zayra Josh OR Patrice But Jill is finished, finally. Who should get the encore: Magni Who will get the encore: Lukas

O Girlfriend - Weezer

The Ghost of Tom Joad - RATM

You nailed it. Those 3 CDs are truly great, and Gutterflower was....ok. But their earlier stuff (when they were a punk band) and their newest CD are pretty bad. The Goo Goo Dolls used to be a Replacements-wannabe band. Not sure what the hell they are trying to prove this decade.

This is the thrilling conversation you've been waiting for - Harvey Danger

[Just FYI, I was just going to hit submit with a lengthy post but I didn't--instead I'll just type a summary of my angst towards what this has become.] This has now sadly turned into a discussion about lyrics in my musical discussion thread. I for one, could fucking care less if Bob Dylan wrote during a nuclear conflict that influenced the youth. Sorry for my slander but this is pissing me off. Bob Dylan could barely keep his voice together not to mention play anything courageous musically. Please. I apoligize for even throwing out my comment about a preference for interpersonal conflicts for this single artist--I am so sorry! There's nothing more subjective than lyrics in music...nothing. Some people prefer hearing lyrics with a left-wing political bias, see: Matthew Good, RATM, Radiohead, Sonic Youth. Or a right-wing bias, see: Godsmack, 3 Doors Down, Pantera. Some artists write about drug addiction, see: Alice In Chains (the entire Dirt album), The Melvins, Nirvana. Some prefer writing about astrology, see: Dredg, Hum, Dream Theater, Godspeed! You Black Emperor. Others enjoy writing non-serious tracks with a satirical twist: Pixies, Jane's Addiction, early R.E.M. Thrills, cars, chicks, girls: AC/DC, Motley Crue, Poision, Ratt. Pubescent teenage relationships: Fall Out Boy, All American Rejects, Simple Plan, Panic! At The Disco. Crusader, lock this thread up.

Girl - Beck

Like A Girl - IME

Stoned - Silverchair

Notice how I said "City And Colour to a certain extent"--I'm very aware of when this side project came about. I should have said "sounds like" instead of "trying to sound like" but it doesn't make a different as the final product is all that matters...not the intentions. BUT, WinstonSmith357, just because artists came out well after Matthew Good does not mean that he cannot sound like them TODAY--that's just being a little ignorant...and why yes, music only exists after Nirvana for me. I mean who exactly is Frank Black (or shall I say Black Francis) anyway? Though, I can see what you mean when you suggest that these political based tracks can be heartfelt situations for him; they may affect him in an ideological sense and trigger him to splatter some ink together. Okay then. But I for one, consider music to be more of a personal level when it's based around interpersonal conflicts rather than differences involving the state of current affairs.

Down - 311

Just to let you people know, I actually am a fan of his early folky stuff. In fact, I love the History Teacher set but I just don't see a point of going back to his early, early roots when he's already covered that, matured and moved on. One of my favourite songs on Ghetto is Native Son and that's about as folky as it gets for a full band. I also do enjoy Hopeless but that's leaning into alt. country territory (though, if he ever made a full album like that, I'm--I'm not sure what I'd do). Nevertheless, just with these new songs, he doesn't seem to put a lot of enthusiasm and passion into these new tracks. To throw out another comparison, he's sounding like a modern Frank Black (Pixies) and is really dumbing down into bland acoustic/folk rock. If we want to compare acoustic tracks then, let's do it: Look at Whispering In The Dark, or Entresol ...and then look at a song like Breath Of A Nation--it might be a personal thing but I'm just not feeling it anymore; it seems forced that he's obligated to make political statements rather than to reach down into his heart instead of his brain like he did in the old days. I really do think that Dave Genn brought a lot to the table with BM/AOB and it would be beneficial to create a dynamic duo again--someone who can keep Matt on his tippy-toes.

Solutions - Bush

Tripoli by a mile and a half. Also, I would argue that the original Generation X-Wing is much greater than this version--though, they're two completely different songs.

Glad to see an educated response with an overdose of optimism. PERHAPS he could very well write stronger arrangements and melodies even by voyaging as a single perfomer. PERHAPS we'll get more songs that are divided into miniature movements as you perfectly stated with We're So Heavy and I surely hope so. The possibilties ARE endless and that IS why I'm a little worried by some of the material that he's been producing over a little while. But who knows--maybe he'll prove me wrong...and surely I hope that he does.

I'm finding it consideringly less interesting to come to these boards anymore and even read the Matthew Good Music thread for that matter (I usually just hog the Other Music Thread). Now I know that there are a lot of newbies here and that's cool that Matt has gained a new range of fans over the past years but he has really is started to become stale. NOTE: my definition of a 'newbie' = fan of Matthew Good since 2003-present. Back to my opinionated thread, (in other words, you are allowed to disagree) but yes, Matthew Good's new route of turning into a solo acoustic artist is not thrilling me to say the least. I've heard just about every b-side that he's released recently and none of the songs bring anything new to the table--especially with all of the similar musicians out right right now. The only song that sounded remotely interesting was Black Helicopter--maybe for its atmospheric special effects, I do not know--but I feel that with age, he is beginning to wear & tear. Matthew Good has released his share of mediocrity over a few years--see If I Were A Tidal Wave/Can't Get Shot In The Back--acoustic tracks that are still strong lyrically but offer absolutely nothing engaging musically. Sure, some of you value lyrics over the music itself and that's fine...but there's nothing to grasp anymore when Matthew Good is trying to sound like Bright Eyes, Pinback, Elliott Smith, City And Colour to a certain extent, & even the late Johnny Cash. I remember back in the good old days, some of my friends didn't appreciate Matthew Good (band) and always labelled him as boring--sadly, these days, I would have to concur. Don't get me wrong, I loved Disc 2 of In A Coma--hell Tripoli was fucking better than the original--it's always awesome to hear your favourite songs stripped down and even more awesome when the artist mixes it up a little. Then a few months after, Matthew Good starts having solo acoustic shows at smaller venues--again, nothing wrong with that. #1 It would be nice to hear some of these In A Coma songs live #2 It would be nice to hear ANY past song stripped down #3 Small venue = better sound, more intimate, more fan-oriented, less Hello Time Bomb kiddies and etc. Nice for about a half an hour maybe. I know it's hard to admit but wouldn't it get a tad repetitive and *gasps* boring to stand and watch Matthew Good for a good hour? ESPECIALLY when he's playing newer songs and he'll expect the crowd to get into it which is a tad difficult when all of the songs would reminescent to eachother. EITHER WAY, it still wasn't a bad idea at all to have that acoustic small venue tour but maybe not the most heart-throbbing either. The problem I see is that it's a given that Matt is going to release an all acoustic cd in the near future. Again, this is not a bad thing but it's a letdown with what he is capable of doing. As some of you know, I'm not the hugest fan of White Light but it's still leaps away greater than what any of these demos are suggesting. Sure, they're just demos but quite frankly, I can't see him changing it up that significantly to make grand improvements for my sake. For those of you who don't like reading, I'll sum it up for you lazy slobs: "Matt, don't leave your acoustic guitar dusted but don't glue it to your hand either".

World Wide Suicide - Pearl Jam

Who likes Sunn 0)))?

The Garden of Eden - Iron Butterfly

I respect Scotty...he's a good guy. He knows his music and has been treated unfairly with members on here before--not to forget about the classic argument he had with Matt Good earlier this year.

A lot of people tell me I have a fake british accent - Don Caballero

Faith No More deserves credit for System Of A Down's existance. Just listen to their 1995 album King For A Day, Fool For A Lifetime; like the songs "Digging The Grave", "The Gentle Art Of Making Enemies", and "Ugly In The Morning". Seriously SOAD fans, download them.

No U2 comparisons at all. They are trying to sound like The Cure--more specifically the "Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me" album.

sugar cane - sonic youth