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I'm sending you dusk right now. EDIT: Add Pony Boy and All Together to my list of songs I can trade.

Hey, considering that I explicitly said that I wasn't talking about murder or robbery in my initial post...

Wow, awesome wallpaper.

On what do you base the idea that if France and Germany are doing it, Canada will too? I'm not sure if you live in Canada or the U.S., but you've got you realize that since Canada didn't go along with the U.S. in the first place, and a considerable majority of the population agreed, we're not likely to go along with France and Germany into the war. We made our own decision in the first place, and I'm confident Martin, who seems to have an excellent sense of how to not ruin his name in politics, is going to stay out.

Dont forget that Bush has the chance to replace a few supreme court justices as they retire over the next few years. What was the number, again? I think 3 or 4, so Bush obviously has some serious power when it comes to the supreme court.

I don't know if they still get printed, a lot of them end up being on the bargain rack or sold for very cheap, but they do print a ton of CD copies.

Yeah, you're right about that. I never much cared to use that report's figures in arguments, because even I have doubts that that many Iraqis could have died. Although I did read an article in the NYT last week that said the army had caused up to 60 percent of civilian deaths... I'm trying to find it now.

From the speech: "The victory of freedom in Iraq will strengthen a new ally in the war on terror, inspire democratic reformers from Damascus to Tehran, bring more hope and progress to a troubled region, and thereby lift a terrible threat from the lives of our children and grandchildren." Yeah, how very subtle. Funny how the only thing seperating Syria and Iran is Iraq. Get on your liberation hat, kids. That, and the calls for Saudi Arabia and others to make democratic reform were just there to appease democrats, perhaps. Let's face it, no government in the united states is going to impose democracy in Saudi Arabia.

If you watch closely, you can also all audience members wanking Bush off at different times in the speech. There are way too many standing ovations, not enough content. Worse yet, no details ever to be had. I once tried to watch a state of the union, and got confused as to which was supposed to be making more white noise, the audience or the president, so I gave up. EDIT: interesting fact i learned, ever since Clinton, every single state of the union has contained the phrase "the state of our nation has never been stronger", etc, etc, etc.

Okay, if you say so. I guess 15,000 confirmed dead is all shiny and happy, then.

Well, I know they were popular, but they weren't incredibly popular, and being popular in Canada doesn't really get you very far.

Limblifter - I/O Sam Roberts - We Were Born In A Flame Raygun Hope to get LOTGA soon, also.

I've got a couple rarities to trade... -Loser Anthems -Can't get shot in the back -dusk -comfortable criminals -lullaby for the new world order acoustic -end song -annabelle -seriously serious -agoraphobe no bon tempo stuff as of yet. and if you want any of the cd released songs that you don't have, I'd be willing to trade.

No. It most certainly does not. I, like you, believe that church and state should be as separate as possible - religious rhetoric does not belong in the realm of politics and government. I'm just questioning where the impetus lies - are politicians mainly using religion because people want to hear it? Or does politicians' use of religion lead to changes in people's beliefs. Good question. I guess it's a mix between giving the people what they want to hear, and giving people a sort of power trip. For the most part, I don't think Christians are too keen on having their religious laws enforced on the public, with a couple exceptions. But in the U.S., 22% of voters are evangelists, and they're the people that are really gung-ho on their views, and believe that they're absolutely right about everything, so it's no suprise they'd want their beliefs to become law, as it were.

We had one of those as a rental car in Alberta a couple years back. Nice little car. But hey, you can't drive... ;)

I don't mean to single out Kayriss (even though I guess I am). I've heard this so frequently and I find it incredibly reprehensible. The implication (possibly not intentional?) is that only when American deaths in Iraq exceed a certain number will the death toll be "somber". WTF??? ;) A life is a life, regardless of nationality, and it's inexcuseable that the government and media suggest that American life is more valuable than any other. I think we've already realized that. When the reported death toll of 100,000 Iraqis reached the united states, hardly anyone batted an eye. Face it, when it comes to deaths, the deaths of soldiers is all that's important.

The problem with Civics is that they're one of the top 10 stolen cars in Canada. Can't go wrong with a Toyota Corolla. One day, this baby'll be mine. Now, if only I can get 27,000 by then.

Yeah, it really is quite impressive the amount of stuff he's had released, considering mgb was never overly popular, and it's all pure quality. I've nearly got my hands on all the released material (going to pick up LOTGA as soon as I can), and then I'll set to work on the demos.

My last post - and I think 'no yu begin wher I end's last post - are in response to this statement by 'Kayriss'. I wasn't questioning whether the actual civilian casualties where being counted. But that is a whole other issue - accuracy of even independant counts is questionable for reasons largely outside their control. I think www.iraqbodycount.org is probably the best count so far of iraq fatalities, they rely solely on news reports for their counting, although you're right in saying that they could be innacurate for reasons outside their control.

I really doubt it. In Vietnam, roughly 60 000 US soldiers died. The US death toll will never even come close to that in Iraq. It's at about 1500 after 2 years. Opposition forces in South Vietnam, such as the Viet Cong, were strong... the insurgents in Iraq today have neither the capability nor the popular support which the Viet Cong did. The American public obviously supports the occupation, at least to the point that it re-elected Bush. I think most people would rather see the US stay longer and ensure the stability of Iraq than leave too soon and have years of effort and sacrifice go to hell. The election this weekend probably has made support for the war among the US population sky rocket. Well, I've studied the anti-war movement in Vietnam somewhat, and I can say with some confidence that Iraq won't go to the level that Vietnam did. Considering that the country is pretty much split 50-50 on the Iraq war (recent polls showed that a slight majority of Americans thought the war was a mistake, 47 percent of voters voted against bush, and bush's approval rating was under 50 percent in the run-up to the election). Not to mention, Vietnam War Syndrome didn't exist during the Vietnam War. Given all the (hushed over) to-do about 1000 soldiers having died, imagine all the outrage over, say, 2000 soldiers having died, or even 10000. And don't forget the several thousands of soldiers that have been injured to some capacity. I also doubt that the election caused support for the war to go up. People knew it was coming for a long time, and republicans (either in politics or in the public) have been saying that the elections would cause Bush's popularity to rise, or that support for the war would go up, and liberals have been saying that the elections might just cause the planet to blow up, and I don't think either has happened.

Gibson ES-335 has to be one of the best guitars ever made. I would have gone with an Epiphone Dot, but I find the necks on those things to be way too thick.

No kidding....I've been paying over a grand for 'occasional driver' on the aforementioned minivan. :angry: Worse than that, you can't buy a red car or a two door (the legal definition of a sports car), unless you're absolutely loaded. It's just stupid crap insurance companies use to make more money. As for me, my "ride" is split between my parents Grand Caravan, and the Oldsmobile Intrigue we got a couple weeks ago... technically it's nobody's car, but my brother gets to drive it to school. No fair. Mom says I won't be allowed to drive it to my school next year, because my brother's school is closer. What a wank. But one day, I'll have a Toyota Corolla sport in dark green...

http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com http://raedinthemiddle.blogspot.com I can go on. EDIT: i'd also like to know why people think the insurgents will stop bombing people now that there has been an election. These guys know how to play ball, they won't give up just because a bunch of people turned out to vote. Who knows who everyone voted for? A vote is not necessarily a vote against insurgents, it's not a vote supporting the U.S. administration, and it's not a vote supporing the occupation. A vote is only a vote once its been counted. Just remember there are no international elections observers in Iraq. Oh, Colorado had 88% voting turnout last November. And I can't remember what the overal turnout in the U.S. was, but I think it was in the ballpark of over 50 percent.

We've got that in our house. It really doesn't taste that great. But my dad never was a great coffee maker...

Hey, as long as I'm right...