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Holy crap, it's worth that much now... I wish I had bought 15 of them when I had the chance. Peace

Anton, your my hero. Peace

mmm Dream Theater rocks my world. Peace

It also depends on the vector of the radar detector. If the missile is head on toward the radar detector, then all the detector will see is the 10 meter diameter of the missile. If the missile is perpendicular to the detector, then it's full length with be visible. Also to note is that the 82 ft length is at launch, during flight the ICBM jettisons stages into space. Since the missile will not be visible via curvature until sometime after it's apogee then one could reasonably assume that at the point when we want to detect the ICBM it would be significantly smaller. And yes if the missile was utilizing some kind of stealth, or radar confusion scheme, then detecting the ICBM, or more accurately predicting where it will be, will be even harder. Peace

Your right Sparq. That was a wild guess. I didn't even think to reason out what would be a more accurate approximation. Peace

touché I'm looking for some information so I can prove whether or not an interception is a feasible reality. I have already kind of shown that detection is feasible (at least against a 40 year old missile). Now we need to show whether or not actually meeting two missiles moving at 16 000 miles per hour is feasible. I think the problem lies in the maneuverability of the missiles vs the required reaction time of the guidance system. As for whether or not it would cause an arms race. I think that it's almost a guaranty. Anybody planning to launch missiles at the US will go to the lengths of attempting to defeat the M.D. system. It would be a waste otherwise. Realistically it will be a cold war, I don't think that either the attacking system, or the defense system would ever be tested. Peace

This is just stupid. Get a life guys. I mean that to all the wankers. I would like to commend all the people that are posting relevance in this thread. Peace

I wasn't release because it didn't exist. History Teacher is not an album. Matt had nothing to do with it's compilation. Some guy just got a hold of a bunch of old demo tapes, and made a CD of them. Then it was marketed as an unreleased album. All of the tracks are off various demo tapes that Matt has done over the years. But History Teacher is not an unreleased album, it is an illegal compilation of demo tracks. Peace

Please define what you mean by work. My biggest problem with missile defense at this point is that the criteria for success is that the interceptor missiles will be able to launch, and meet an incoming missile. The interceptor will carry a high enough yield such that it will knock an incoming ICBM out of the air. The interceptor will not be able to destroy a nuclear payload, meaning that the radioactive material will rain down on Saskatchewan, Alberta, Manitoba, and various other parts of Canada. Thus destroying the agricultural economies of said regions, and possible killing thousands from radiation poisoning. I digress. Let's assume that if the interceptor succeeds the incoming ICBM is neutralized. Now lets do some quick calculations on the feasibility of M.D. I have some specs on the Atlas type ICBM. This missile is over 40 years old, but that will only serve to illustrate my point. If I can prove that the system is almost technically infeasible against a missile 40 years old, then we can by extension say that the system is totally infeasible against a current ICBM. The Atlas ICBM (http://www.geocities.com/atlas_missile/specs.htm) validity of source is not confirmed. "At the apogee of its elliptical flight path the missile reached an altitude of 763 miles and a speed of approximately 16,000 miles per hour. Elapsed time for a flight of 6,788 miles: 43 minutes." Now I need to find the exact time an incoming ICMB will be detected. This will allow us to determine the maximum response time of the system. We all know that the earth is spherical, so an ICBM on an elliptical path, traveling a distance of 6788 mi will not be visible to a ground radar station until some time after it's launch. We will assume that the target is costal, hence the missile will not have to travel over any land. This assumption has two consequences: 1. The apogee is at the furtherest from the ground station, hence detection of the ICBM is the most difficult; 2. The M.D. system has the best opportunity to destroy the incoming transpacific ICBM over the ocean, which will avoid possible human causalities (however would be extremely harmful to marine life). Earth curvature correction: (http://mathcentral.uregina.ca/QQ/database/QQ.09.97/dyck2.html) 8 inches / 1 mile by mathematical extrapolation the flight of the ICBM can be modeled as y = -(62.5x10^-6)(x-3394)^2 +763 where y is the altitude of the missile, and x is it's distance to the target. The missile become invisible when 0 = (-(62.5x10^-6)(x-3394)^2 +763) - (15.78x10-6)x x = 2600.37 by algebra and quadratic formula. The missile is moving at an average velocity of 16 000 mi/hour. This means there is ~ 9.751 minutes until impact. Now if we assume that the interceptor missile locks onto the incoming missile, and launches by the time the eta is 9 minutes, and the interceptor is moving at 16 000 miles per hour, then the interceptor will intercept the ICBM at a distance of 1300 mi. Lets re-evaluate some of those assumptions. The ICBM is 82.5 ft long. A Boeing 747 is 231 ft long (http://flyaow.com/planes/74eaircraftspecifications.htm). Meaning the missile has a radar image of 1/3 the size of a Boeing. I can find no statistics on the number of planes in the air at any given time. I believe a safe assumption will be that there are 200 planes in the area of interest (ie the area where the ICBM will be first seen). This means that the ICBM takes up 0.001786 of the visible radar images. Meaning that the missile is not even likely detectable. But if we assume that the change of the missile being detected doubles for every 1/2 of a minute it is visible (it will have traveled 50 mi in that time), then we can say that the missile will definitely be detected when 1 = (0.001786)*2^n n = 9.129 therefor the missile can be definitely detected at a time distance of 4.5 minutes. With the same assumptions about the interceptor, that make the interception at 600 miles. That's not quite what I was hoping to see, but I must conclude that it would be possible. IF we can actually intercept the incoming missile. The problem here in is that I don't know enough about radar targeting, and missile maneuvering. I can however say that trying to collide two missiles moving at 16 000 miles / hour, isn't going to be the easiest task. First one must know with absolute certainty where the incoming missile will be when the interceptor reaches it. An ICBM programed to change course once an interceptor is launched would therefor defeat the system. Further, an ICBM capable of masking or disrupting it's radar image will also defeat the system. I'm not quite sure what I've accomplished, but I've worked on this post for too long to scrap it now. I was hoping to show that it is unlikely that the system would work against a 40 year old missile, let alone a new ICBM. If I find some statistics on a newer ICBM's, then the same calculation may show that the response time of the system would need to be far to fast. Well that's all I got. Peace

A lifestyles class should have any particular preference. However, in most homosexual relationships the only risk is disease, for which prevention methods are discussed. The heterosexual concern of pregnancy and prevention of such is the only real non-homosexual discussion in a lifestyles class. I'm not even sure to what heterosexual only topics your are talking about, or what homosexual only topics are missed. Peace

mmm, Pbook! I use Acquisition to get files for my Pbook, it uses limewire's network. Peace

np. You have to watch out though, there are a few font errors (where the symbol didn't convert properly to the font set that adobe has). If you keep a list of them, then I can fix the pdf. Peace

http://www.propagandacritic.com/ Peace

Matt hates Tab. I don't think he would write a tab, ever. Peace

No, people are essentially lazy. And since they are lazy, they don't bother to do any work before they post. Peace

I got my copy pretty cheap. If you want the festo's in there original form, hunt around for the Manifesto's thread. I posted a link to a pdf of all the old festo's. Peace

Thumb drive? That's the best I can come up with. Peace

At this point in the defense systems infancy I don't even understand why the US is even talking to us. It's obvious that the defense system won't even be able to hit a realistic decoy, for at least another few years. Then why do they want to start building stations in Canada. Maybe they should show us some convincing results? Peace

Please see my avatar. Also see the pinned topic on searching. We may not agree on a lot you and I. But it is also an annoyance of mine when people don't check whether or not a thread already exists, before they post. Peace

I am impressed with the cover... I like it a lot more than the original. Peace

I think the song grows on you. As MG has said, the side project is more about making the kind of music he wants to make, not just the kind of music that sells albums. Peace

touché Peace

The Hub won't verify the Mac client, so I can't join. And if you want waiting, try to download stuff from IRC. Peace

*starts a slow clap* Peace

Most of the tracks are available but very rare. Most of them are off Demo tapes, or indy-underground tapes. They where all released before Matt was part of Rodchester Kings. Back when he played with Steve Codling. Steve is actually the guy who originally compiled the history teacher CD. The disc also has some of the Rodchester Kinds work. Peace