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Yeah too bad for sure if he can't, that lineup on the last tour was just awesome. Bones added a lot in my opinion. Thanks for the feedback on the info as to why he most likely won't be there. Definitely curious to hear who the band will be, Stu sounds confirmed, is Blake as well? I'm hoping to hear Anthony is back as well.

Is this actually happening with set dates though? Other than a message in May saying they'll tour Australia. But I dont see any confirmed dates or anything, as long as they aren't touring during that six week period I dont see why it couldn't happen.

Did Bones confirm he's out. I know it's been said that Stu ruled out Rich, Milos ruled out himself, but who confirmed no Bones?

funny I was coming here to say Wednesday Morning 3 AM by Simon and Garfunkel.

Maybe Matt said fuck guitar and he's going all Geddy Lee on this tour

Holy Shit that was awesome. I haven't really been a fan of Lyric Videos and didn't really get what the big deal was. Seemed to me a way to advertise music without giving any thought whatsoever to the content of the video. Usually just lyrics over random stock footage. This video however, clearly shows an effort was made to reflect the themes of the song. I love the urban decay juxtaposed against the endless folds of similar looking homes. Does anyone else get a disturbed feeling seeing those houses? It reminds me of the feeling I get in Pink Floyd's The Wall movie with the marching hammers. It's creepy and unsettling even though its subtle. Anyways clearly some great artistic choices in the direction of this video!

I should really just not review anything until I've listened multiple times when it comes to Matthew Good music. This EP has grown on me in a big way. The biggest change now is my appreciation for Load Me Up. When I first heard it I was pretty underwhelmed. To the point of even skipping it on subsequent plays. Now having listened through half a dozen or so times, I can't stop listening to it. The arrangement and instrumentation are just fantastic on it, it might now compete for my favourite song on the record. The others have held up well too, Suburbia I really enjoy taken as a separate entity, but it remains my least favourite because I still feel it changes the mood and atmosphere of that original Suburbia too much. I think of all the songs on the EP, Suburbia would be the only one I'd be disappointed if it replaced the original in the set on this tour. Maybe I'd miss the Born to Kill outro too. When I first heard this EP announced I kind of wondered if it might be a clever way to reinvent songs that Matt was having trouble singing. He has been very honest on The Bored that his vocal range has changed and that he has down tuned songs to accommodate it. He has also stated that for some songs this doesn't work as well such as Fated and that he may not be able to sing them in the future. I was always skeptical a complete play of Beautiful Midnight could happen because of this reality. So when the EP become evident I thought maybe that's what this might be. This way you could familiarize fans with different versions sung in a way more sustainable for the current abilities of your voice. With that being said though, the tracklisting doesn't indicate this method. Why use Load Me Up and Suburbia, songs that he clearly still can sing as evident on recent tours. So I believe this was truly just an artistic endeavour and I'm pretty pleased with what Matt was able to accomplish. It kinda takes balls to tamper with a classic because people are just waiting to use it as an excuse to point out your decline. Compare it to something you did long ago and use it as evidence that it's all going downhill. These songs however are brilliant and reinforce to me that Matthew Good shines now as an artist perhaps more than he ever has. How about the production on this thing? It sounds fantastic! It makes me excited for the next album in a big way. By the way, I'm curious, those comparing the sound quality to Beautiful Midnight, are you comparing to the vinyl version? Because to me that was night and day in sound quality compared to the original cd mix. I think the recent vinyl remaster certainly holds its own against the sound quality of this new release, but agree that the cd does sound more murky by comparison.

haha I remember some fan years back wanting to visit Coquitlam to see this small backwoods town where Matt grew up. Someone had to shatter their image with the news that Coquitlam is a suburb of Vancouver with a population well in excess of 100,000 people haha. I love the local references. Every time I'm in Vancouver I tour around to locations from the music videos, it still pisses me off about the Chateau Granville though

yeah welcome to the forum. I always find the stories of how American fans got in to Matt to be intriguing because so often they are by random chance, or because they heard a song on the radio on a brief visit, but they are always unique stories. Glad to hear you're going to make it out to a show and that you, like so many other MG fans were able to use his music to buoy you through a tough spot. Anything of Beautiful Midnight you're particularly looking forward to hearing?

Yeah the seller has been dropping the price. First time I saw it it was at $499. Now down to $419. It amazes me that these still hold that kind of asking price because for one In a Coma made all the songs readily available and two the fanbase has shrunk over the years since its release. There seems to be far less people actively collecting this kind of thing anymore. I think no doubt it'd be cool to have, but I just cant see myself putting out anywhere near the kind of money people seem to still ask for this kinda thing. Still I do have an interest in the history of the album. It's funny to me that for a time Loser Anthems was consider to be a rarity too. Considering over 200,000 people bought Beautiful Midnight, it makes sense that with only 35,000 copies Loser Anthems would quickly be gone from retailers, but as the fanbase has dwindled, so many of these now float around I dont even consider it to be rare at all. You can easily scoop one on ebay at any given time for under $20 and I see them in retail stores too with some regularity.

Thanks Gursky, very interesting to know. That would go with my theory then that maybe they were released to coincide with the single Apparitions, although I can't say for sure because I can't find an exact release date for either, just that Apparitions was a Summer single that peak in October 1998. I find Lo-Fi to be fascinating because it was the only album that was never actually sold. It was a bonus item, and as such never had a set in store release date. And because it seems to have been available in multiple, but inconsistent formats, it wouldn't even be a guarantee that the biggest fans originally got a copy.

kinda like the idea of this thread. I had a question I didnt think was worth a new thread for, so it will fit in here nicely. What is the deal with Lo-Fi B-Sides, how was it distributed? I've always heard that 5000 were made and combined with shipments of Underdogs. Which I always took to mean that it shipped with the first 5000 preorders of the album. But then just the other day I realized that Lo-Fi's release date was 1998, where as Underdogs was was November 1997. So clearly Lo-Fi was not shipped with the first copies of Underdogs. So how did this come about then? Was Underdogs re-released in 1998 with Lo-Fi to capitalize on the Summer 1998 success of Apparitions? Were they simply handed out at random? Internet purchasing was in it's infancy at that time, so I'm assuming these were handed out in stores. So how did it work? Did you approach the counter with Underdogs and a copy of Lo-Fi was pulled from under the desk? Were copies of Lo-Fi more common in some areas? as in were 2000 sent to the Vancouver area, 2000 to Toronto and the other 1000 dispersed to various stores across the country? I know some of that is pretty in depth and its likely no one here knows, but it just made me curious how this release was handled and when exactly was it packaged with Underdogs.

I will back that up in a major way. To me the sound was revolutionary. Beautiful Midnight and Underdogs stood out for sure, but even Astronauts was an improvement. I didn't notice it as much with Hospital Music. But that could be because of the nature of the tracks. I just have a feeling Audio of Being would sound amazing on vinyl. Like Advertising on Police Cars has so much presence, I cant imagine the way it'd sound on vinyl, Im excited to get to hear it hopefully someday.

So I have been enjoying the hell out of these vinyls lately, but it cant help me wonder when the next batch is coming. When they released the first round early this year I just assumed it was a perfect setup for the remainder to come out in time for XMas, but it seems obvious that isn't going to happen now. From what I understand the vinyls sold pretty well, so hopefully low sales haven't halted the remainder being released. Has anyone heard any word on the progress for these? I am so hoping to get Audio of Being on vinyl! plus WLRRR which may not be my favourite album, but I think its sound would translate very well to the vinyl format. Does anyone know if the other two EP's were planned for release? I mean Raygun was so I'm hoping fingers crossed Loser Anthems and Lo-Fi also get that treatment.

Gave it a second run through last night and I agree with everyones comments about the spaciousness of the recording and just the overall sound quality being amazing. Suburbia is such an infectious sound to it. I want to dance to it, but then it seems wrong dancing to Suburbia haha. Let's Get it On and Born to Kill are still my favourites after a second listen, although I appreciated I Miss New Wave more the second time around.

Is that a for sure. My Amazon pre order says it ships tomorrow

Suburbia is so entirely different, wow just a totally different spin on that one. I prefer the original because it was just so harrowing, this new version is more up beat, and while still enjoyable lost some of what made the original fantastic. Really enjoyed the new Born to Kill. It sounds like it could translate very effectively as an acoustic only song as well. Captures a fantastic mood on this. It has a more conventional ending than the original. Let's Get It On was the one I was least looking forward to after the brief preview, but is probably my second favourite after a single run through. It still captures the original feel of the song while being at the same time fresh and different. I think this version of Load Me Up would resonate more if an acoustic slowed down version didn't already exist. It would be more shocking and effective that way. I still enjoyed this, and find it funny that I keep trying to sing immediately into the high register for the "I'm frantic" bit, only to discover Matt keeps it in the basement haha. I Miss New Wave is probably the most like the original and didn't have any parts that really stood out as being a major departure. As with all of Matt's albums I'm looking forward to subsequent listens as often my opinion changes the more I hear.

I guess I have kind of just assumed a keyboard player would be present because of Strange Days and Running For Home being in the set nightly. I think it'd be unfortunate if Anthony or someone else couldn't be employed in that position on this tour. Also, since the band already knows Police Cars from last tour, it could probably easily be incorporated into the encore some nights and I always felt the piano part really enhanced this song. Listen to the Cayuga show from '02 in the Lounge, it really adds to the chorus and the outro of this song with the presence of a piano player.

I'm interested to know who the band will be as well. Last tours line up was definitely my favourite live line up Matt has had since I attended my first show in 2008.

Audience recordings are always going to capture much more atmosphere than a straight up dry board mix. The mix in that case is straight from what is pumped out of the PA which is optimized so it fills the venue with the best sound and seperation. The natural reverberations of a venue are what help to resonate that sound and give it that thickness. Most shows being mixed off the board these days though include ambient mics to capture some of this sound plus the audience. At most concerts you'll see a pair of mics pointing out to the crowd for this purpose. If you listen to Matt's Live Road recordings, those are taken from the board, but clearly have a nice warmth and thickness to them despite very minimal mixing. So for a show like the Bravo show, there is no reason why it couldn't have sounded that way. Television in general does a pretty poor job mixing concerts. Back in 1969 Led Zeppelin grew so frustrated with it, they completely abandoned TV promotion as they were unable to record and present the bands sound anywhere near what the actual live sound was. Anyone who caught the recent Tragically Hip final concert on CBC knows just how awful that mix sounded, particularly at the start of the show. When I heard 50 Mission Cap, I immediately thought "Oh no, their final performance is going to be tarnished by poor television live audio mixing." As someone who was featured in several live tv concert broadcasts over the years, I'd like to hear Matt's impression's on the sound quality presented and why in many cases it simply doesn't do justice to the band's actual live sound?

A Canada Day show in Surrey is on youtube

That Bravo show was a nice bonus at the end of the Vancouver tour, but having seen five shows on that tour, I gotta say I always felt that show did not do service to how good the band sounded on that tour. I always thought the sound was very flat, the instruments had no life no crackle. If you want to see what I'm talking about compare this to the Massey Hall recording which was a similar band. Of course the crowd at that taping seemed very subdued as well. I thought the setlist was decent for it, but at the shows on that tour, I felt they were structured around Empty's Theme Park, which was this giant 10 minute song with some great jams from the band. It fit into the setlist kind of how Midnight Rambler was the centerpiece of the 1969 Rolling Stones tour. I'm glad this Bravo show exists, but to me it doesn't capture fully the things I love about a Matthew Good show.

I appreciate you addressing the dvd question Matt. I know it gets asked alot and im glad you've said your intentions so guys like me can stop pestering about it. I do hope someday you are able to film a show. As for the tour date complaints. I feel for those fans. Living on Vancouver island quite frankly I get spoiled when it comes to Matt Good. Although for most other artists who only come to Vancouver you can add $120 in ferry costs and another $120 for a hotel haha so in those situations I dint feel for people in a market like Chicago Dallas or LA. Music is a business and Matt's livelihood. It just doesnt make sense to tour probably, get sick and at the end have made nothing. Its a shitty situation. But it is what it is. Perhaps a 2017 edition of Live Road could help ease some of the pain for those not able to attend

Matt broached the storyteller concept earlier this year when he mentioned possibly doing residency shows in the future where hed play five shows charting a chronological course through his career with songs and stories. So maybe

I agree Manchalivin, I think this would be an ideal time to do something like that, especially since Matt had three night stands in Vancouver and Toronto. He could pick one of those markets and use recordings from all three nights to devise this, similar to what a band like Led Zeppelin did for The Song Remains The Same which comprises performances from July 27th-29th 1973 at MSG. Matt subscribes to what he calls "Live At Leeds" condition for live recordings, which is they can be mixed, but nothing corrected from a live performance, in otherwords its a warts and all release. This condition could still be satisfied recording a live show in this way, he would just have three recordings to choose a best take of in regards to the BM material. As for the encores, he might only have one take of each, maybe two depending on how he does the encores, but if a particular song is deemed not up to snuff it could be left off. After all, while each show may have a three song encore, over a span of three nights you may have 3-9 songs to choose from for a release. I know in the past Matt has said this is very expensive to do and would not be happening, but as years go by and technology improves maybe the costs of doing such a thing are more attainable. He mentioned Warner is supportive of what he wants to do, perhaps they could use their deeper pockets to do something like this. In a recent interview Matt said he wishes he could sell refrigerators with a BM sticker on them if he could, obviously feeling like attaching that label to something makes it valuable. Well, my fridge is in good condition, but my DVD music collections has a major hole in it! I've even mentioned potentially crowd funding something like this in a means similar to what kickstarter.com does. Many independent film makers are funding films and all kinds of other projects by pricing out the costs involved, setting a fundraising goal and then sourcing actual consumer interest. The upshot of this is because it is done in advance, if the money is not raised, everyone just gets refunded and the project doesn't happen. If the goal is reached it does. Usually perks are offered, which in Matts case could be all kinds of things $25 donation could be say a copy of the DVD when released, $50 donation could be a dvd and a signed copy of the new EP $100 donation could be a copy of DVD and a Merch item like a shirt and so forth. I think it could be a successful avenue to fund such a project that the fans clearly want without having financial risk to the artist involved.