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Yes because most of the time apathy is more effective? Thank you Juanpe, only by reminding people can we possibly hope for change. Peace

I think we need to more clearly define the concept of language. At present we are debating based on an unclear definition. For example, are abstractions considered language? You mind thinks in pictures, don't believe me? Elephant. So is an abstraction a form of language? Is intuitively understanding a concept a form of language? I would argue that abstract concepts are not languages as such. They convey information only to the individual. They present no means to transfer that information to another person. I would say that I mostly think in english when I am forming speak, or writing. However when I am performing complex arithmetic, what language is that? What about when I am drawing or writing music. What about when I am playing sports? The latter being the best example of a time when we use only abstract concepts. Peace

I'm too lazy to read the entire thread, and to uninformed to know what all the acronyms mean. Peace

This thread is totally fucked. Firstly: you can't commit both libel and slander. It's libel since it's written, slander has to be spoken. Learn to use a dictionary. Secondly: 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208 99862803482534211706798214808651328230664709384460955058223172535940812848111745 0 2841027019385211055596446229489549303819644288109756659334461284756482337 Thirdly: Most of you would run screaming if you truly understood imaginary numbers. Fourthly: How is the the fact that there are no none-zero integer roots for nth dimensional Pythagorean equations relevant? Fifthly: locky locky ;) :angry: :angry: Peace

I don't think you deserve this kind of shit Ozz. Just remember that these guys like to stir everybody up. I agree that they are the kind of people that give message board's a bad name. Peace P.S. Can we steer this back to on topic, or the thread will have to be locked.

He is right... I'm sure if you read the criminal code long enough you will find it... I just don't have the time. Peace

http://www.parl.gc.ca/information/library/...bs/prb993-e.htm http://www.ageofconsent.com/canada.htm http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-46/42339.html the last is the actual criminal code. Peace

That's awesome! Peace

I almost want to watch it just to see how bad it is. alrighty bittorrent time!! Peace

This thread is outdated and a little misleading, so I'm going to lock it now. Peace

I would agree to that BUT, to play devils advocate for a little bit. What if people don't go to university, and then can't get a job. Well if nobody has a job, then employers don't have employes. Obviously something will have to give: either employers would send new employes on training to qualify them for the job, or employers would just hire people. It turns out that you don't need a degree to do a lot of those jobs, but a degree sets you apart from people that don't have one. I believe that anybody who wants to, should have a right to education. But support only exists for the brightest and the poorest. The rest of us have to pay. If we can't pay, and we're not poor enough, then maybe university isn't right? What about trade school, or apprenticing? Peace

Alright this is how it breaks down at my uni: Total funds: $532.4 M Tuition funds: ~$79 M Most of our funds come from a provincial grant. Peace

lol! Peace

If you bring up the link to military service: I believe you can get education in Canada for free if you get a military scholarship... though you have to do training all summer, and when your done school you have to work for the military for a period of time. The benefits are pretty huge though. I know a guy who gets a pretty large living allowance and tuition + books paid. Yeah you are right about how much my tuition contributes to the operational costs of the university. I would like to see a break down... maybe I'll ask my students union... but that assumes they're not totally useless. Peace

Unfortunately, Anton wields the ban-stick, and he has sympathy for Avril. Peace

Apparently they lie, that's all. Post secondary is not at all free. Primary and secondary education is *mostly* free... but I'm sure that I had school fees. I only partially agree with state supported education. In countries which practice it, your education future rests solely on your marks. Meaning if you fail (in some countries) even one class, you are booted to make way for smarter students. I don't know about you, but that's not my idea of fun. University should not be unreachable to anybody. I disagree as to whether or not it is restricted to only the richest. As I have said, my student line of credit is in my own name, and the bank didn't even bother to check the financial situation of my parents. This is mainly because of the program I am enrolled in. So I will admit, if the bank won't lend money to people in other programs then maybe the tuition to those programs is to high. I've never found that university is particularly restrictive to the students it allows. One of the people I went to high school with, who is neither smart nor wealthy, is currently attending my university (in an arts program of some description). I think what needs to be looked at more deeply is the mismanagement of funds that goes on inside universities. My university is continually spending money on things, where those funds could be better spent on improving facilities, or reducing tuition. One such example is the major renovation on the administration building, which although the old wing of the building was condemned, was not necessary spending, since there was already a not condemned new wing (which has also been renovated). Unfortunately, education is not free, and somebody always has to pay the bill. Until the citizens of Canada decide that education will be a socialized program, then it will never be publicly funded. Peace

Apparently. So what is the dice with tuition. Can you give me some numbers from Ontario? Peace

Just play it back through a line in cable. You can record it using windows recorder. Peace

I think that is a definite answer. Peace

You are a Social Liberal (75% permissive) and an... Economic Liberal (10% permissive) You are best described as a: Socialist You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness. loc: (93, -150) w00T Socialist!! Peace

Actually I'm not sure what I was talking about either. Peace

The hell? Peace

Indeed! I agree mrs jesus, I would rather go unnoticed than be party to the stupid award shows. I plan not to vote. Peace

That's what you think! I'm in Engineering, with a second degree in Computer Science. My student line is actually totally in my own name, it's guaranteed against my predicted income. But my line isn't because I don't have the savings for university, it's so I can build a credit history. Poverty line my ass, it's not like I'm in an arts program ;) Peace

You can vote for him in the "Fan Choice" Awards (select other, and he's listed) Unfortunately Matt hasn't sold a 1/4 million albums, so he's probably not big enough with in the genre this year. It's all the same, as Matt has said he's "not one of those people who relegates music into a competition" Peace