Outtahere
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Yeah I can kind of hear them. I never heard that song before but I do remember someone sarcastically describing the song as a Deftones cover back when the record came out. Not being a Deftones fan, I never got that reference until now.
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Looking/feeling like an idiot when I met the band. When I ran the official French mgb.com I was invited to meet them backstage at their Montreal show. I remember several little things that I wish had been different (bear in mind I was just a 17 year old kid at the time, with social anxiety and, although bilingual, I never really spoke in English in my day to day life) : I got there alone like a loser because no one I knew liked MGB... When I got backstage, I just sat on a chair until I could gather my little courage to go see the band. I remember Matt's "Who the fuck is that?" face when he walked in. Matt was looking for the city in which a radio station was based and asked me... I was 17 and surrounded by MGB, some crew, Treble Charger (plus Greig Nori didn't look like he was OK with me being there in the first place)... they were all looking at me so I kind of lost my ability to speak and someone answered for me... I took (very bad) pictures of the show with my 24 exposure film (that's how we took pictures at the time kids) and ended up only being able to take pictures with Matt and Rich... I actually had to decline pictures with Ian and Dave... "oh I'm out of film"... bravo... A picture of a very very overexcited me with Matt (which I never share online because I show more teeth than I actually have on it, it's just ridiculous) Matt had told me he would bring me on stage for the show (which he used to do during that tour sometimes) and when Christi Thompson, Matt's assistant at the time, called showtime, she brought me with her at the soundboard all the way in the back and I followed in silence instead of telling her what Matt said... Of course I was a kid but still I wish I had handled the situation a little better. There were tons of great moments from that night though. Copyright and MGB were playing pranks on each other and at some point Matt and Rich told me to follow them to the sidestage. When Copyright's drummer hit the snare, a crap ton of flour flew in the air. To get back at them, the very sexy keyboard player (a big hairy dude) came to dance in a speedo while MGB were playing. Fun times! :)
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Oh of course it's doable. I'm talking about getting into it for that, you know the "I'm going to become a rock star to make a crap ton of money". That can't be your motivation because your chances of success are slim to none especially in this day and age. But there nothing wrong with wanting to make money from your art though. Plus even those who stick to it and work very hard, no matter the field of expertise, the vast majority will not get to the top through no fault of their own.
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Just to be clear I wasn't talking about motivation at all. Maybe I misunderstood your point. I was talking in terms of fairness, about how the arts are viewed as trivial, unimportant and many times diminished to being a hobby and therefore should be done for free. What we do in life is often motivated by something greater than just interest. For example, when you're an artist, it's well engraved in your DNA. It is you. So that's your 'motivation' so to speak, even if that term isn't really applicable as it's like talking about your motivation for breathing. So when you're an artist, you do your art, whether you get paid or not. In that respect, you shouldn't expect to get paid indeed. I'm also a Web developer and if I make a website at home I can't expect to magically get money for it. But if a client wants that website, he's going to pay for it. If you're a carpenter you can build houses in your backyard, you won't get paid for it. And so on. That's what I was talking about when I was referring to 'if it serves someone else'. If you're recording music for yourself and you're sharing them online, you might not get paid. But that's alright as you're not doing it for money. Going into an artistic carreer FOR the money is not a good motivation indeed. What I was talking about though, is how the artist, the raw material for the artist 'product', is often the one that has to make all the financial sacrifices. I can't speak for other provinces, but in Quebec, an author is last in the book chain getting only 10% of the sale price of a book. Without the author, there is no book. But the editor gets 30%, the distributor gets 20%, the bookseller gets 40% (!!!). Yet the book serves the editor, the distributor and the bookseller. Why is the author getting a roll of pennies? That's the mindset I was talking about before. The artist gets screwed everytime and everyone else around is making money. Even if that can't be your motivation for making art (and, by experience, when you force it, it sucks anyway) it's unfair that not only this kind of system exists but that it is defended by many given how art is seen as a hobby, not a proper field of work. Yet remove art from the world and none of these people have jobs. No businesses profit from a peak of visitor during the Montreal Jazz Festival or a special art exposition. There are no more librairies, museums, television, Netflix, iTunes, sound egineers, stage dressers and so on. That is and will always be unacceptable. So maybe we weren't talking about the same thing. If that's the case I hope that clears up my position :)
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Well, there's fantasy and reality. You could just do what you love for free, because you love it but when it serves someone else then you need to get paid for it. Because that's the way the world works whether you're an artist, a Web designer, an electrician or whatever. Because you have bills to pay, children to feed, The way people think about arts in general as being just something artists love doing and therefore shouldn't expect to be paid for it is not only ridiculous but insulting. I don't know if that's what you're saying but if it is I highly disagree. Like anything you can do it for free if you want but again if it serves anyone (promoters, venues, radio DJs, etc. etc. etc.) then you should get paid for it, period.
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Wow nice find!! Thanks!
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Matt's talked a lot about how, cynical for a lack of a better term, he is now. That's where that "Cause they don't got you yet" line in Mutineering comes from. That's what I'm getting from that post when he says 'When I still believed in magic'. My interpretation anyway. Still he manages to remain mysterious in this mystery. What I find odd though is that I thought all those songs (bar what he did in the 90's) were about someone in the present not the past (except for It's Been a While Since I was Your Man of course).
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Geek U.S.A. (podcast) discusses 'all things' Matthew Good
Outtahere replied to Williammunny11's topic in Matthew Good
Don't beat yourself up, it was just a mistake! ;) -
Geek U.S.A. (podcast) discusses 'all things' Matthew Good
Outtahere replied to Williammunny11's topic in Matthew Good
Indeed there were facts that were wrong here and there. When it comes to music it's not so bad but that would have deserved a bit more research given the subject. Matt said to George Stroumboulopoulos on CBC that it wasn't intentional at all, he just didn't know what he was doing given his mental state, the amount he ended up taking and the multiple beers he was drinking at the same time. -
Geek U.S.A. (podcast) discusses 'all things' Matthew Good
Outtahere replied to Williammunny11's topic in Matthew Good
Great podcast. What I hate about podcasts and radio though is that sometimes I'd like to get into the conversation ha ha! I don't get the obsession with Peter Criss' solo record though. Is that an inside joke or does he really like it that much? :P -
I'm listening to the podcast posted by Williammunny11 in the link below and he says that MGB were supposed to be called Snowaxe or Gandalf... a quick Google search returnes a couple of results that say the same thing but none of them have any source. To my recollection, this is the first time I ever hear those names. When did Matt say this? https://soundcloud.com/geek-usa/episode-54-matthew-good
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I agree with what's been said here. If he decided to get rid of some MGB stuff I don't think a lot of people who attend his concerts would complain. There'd obviously be complaints, but he's got plenty of solid solo stuff to make a perfect live show without playing one pre-2002 single (and that's been true for years as far as I'm concerned)
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I know right? I know a lot of people are buying online but I'm not about to start. I want a CD with a booklet in my hands. I will buy a song here and there but when I buy a record I want to have a physical copy that I actually own. In Quebec we have a store chain called Archambault. They were bought by a book store chain called Renaud-Bray a couple of years ago. Archambault had 0 copies of the record but Renaud-Bray, who has an average of under 60 CDs in the whole store had one copy of Storm (now mine). Maybe there was problems with the distribution or something but this is really frustrating... I don't give a crap about how the world is going to digital, I'm not. Don't get me wrong I have a phone with my whole record collection on it. But I want that physical CD. Yeah I got Chaotic Neutral from my local WalMart. I was surprised they didn't have Storm. Yet they had Liam Gallagher's solo record... go figure...
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I got it un Sunday (because there's no bloody proper record store in an hour drive radius of my house) and I have the Station of State version as well.
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Matt's been switching to a 'do it like the 70's and 80's' way of working in the last years. Shorter records, song fade outs, live off the floor recordings, later announcements for a new record, etc. That's the way the bands he loved when he grew up worked so I'm guessing he prefers working that way himself. He does seem to miss that era in the music business. That's just a guess (and I'm not saying it's negative by any means).
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Had to go to 3 stores to find it but I finally got it! Concerning Chaotic Neutral, that record was never one of my favourite. It features the first MG record ever with a song I have never liked (No Liars) and some I usually skip (All You Sons and Daughters, Moments, Girls in Black). I prefer this record. As it's been said, there's no bad songs on it. But, given its style and length, I kind of see it as an extension of CN, a complementary album. Bullets in a Briefcase remains one of his best songs ever. It's right up there with Weapon, Non Populus and other of his masterpieces.
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As I said in the other thread, this is one of the best pieces of music Matt's ever written and sang... it's simply stunning. I'm speechless... especially given it's inspiration.
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Ah I'm glad Matt finally was able to do something with Lone Gunman!
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Bullets in a briefcase is one of the best music pieces Matt's ever written and sang... it's simply stunning. I'm speechless... especially given it's inspiration.
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Alright some people got the record already (lucky!!) and here are the lyrics for Something Like a Storm and Days Come Down: Something Like a Storm Fall asleep your head on my chest Dream of something effortless While my heart beats out a message born Of something like a storm Live at night where the nights are long From town to town and song to song Feel the faces of strangers worn Of something like a storm Hold on as if a chain That we made against the waves As if a light where the nights are long From town to town and home to home See the walls of neighbors form Something like a storm Days Come Down They buried me In a suit made of old lighters And magazines Mostly pages of Mother Jones And The Nation Better Living, bits of patience Which you'll need Drove away in the Valiant My old man that he gave me Slant six, busted tail light, Ivory Green When the days come down And we're laid right out Catch you catching me When the days come down I was interred In a church without no ceiling With a bear who was out eating Watching from the trees And as I stood upon the waters Their silhouettes, my daughter Waving back at me Well sometimes I get it What it is I came for Like the screaming of your first born Sounds like singing When the days come down And we're laid right out Catch you catching me When the days come down All song are written by Matthew Good except There The First Time, Days Come Down and Bullets in a Briefcase, written by Matthew Good and Warne Livesey.
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My condolences Anton! :( Thanks for the insight. No matter what I've said about fade outs and Something Like a Storm missing something, I'm still pumped about this album. I love the tracks that were released and this 80's sound Matt's been using since BM Revisited. @andydanger85's theory would have been interesting though.
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I agree with what's been said before. It's an awesome song, great music and feel but there's an oumph missing at the end. I remember the first time I heard the orchestral crecendo on Empty's Theme Park, I felt a tingle in my stomach. That's missing on Something Like a Storm. And I'm not talking about a chorus. Just a culmination point. But it's still great and definitely an earworm. The lyrics I hear: Go to sleep, your head on my chest Dream of something effortless My heart beats out message born (??) Something like a storm Living night where the nights are long From time to time and song to song Feel the faces of strangers' war Something like a storm Something like a storm Something like a storm Hold on, see the change(?) that we've made against the waves Cause if a light where the nights are long From time to time and home to home See the walls of the neighbors form Something like a storm
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Yes he confirmed that's what it's about, I believe it's in the thread where he posted the lyrics.
