ToadMan

Well at least you haven't been here long enough to own anything to the community. All the rest of you: Preordering is like the property tax of NF, using the NF preorder link gives Anton funds, perpetuates the site's existence. Peace

I'm glad that everybody is so negative. Peace

mehh why not? I was referring to all the free loaders who don't want to contribute to the site. Though _Andy_ makes a good point. I guess there are a few copies of digipac AoB still around my town, and though there are no "Loser Anthems" around my town I imagine they are still out there... Peace

While preordering "In A Coma" and searching or a $7 cd so I could get the free shipping I saw this on the side bar. "Avalanche", "Audio of Being", "Beautiful Midnight", "Underdogs", and "Loser Anthems" all make this guy's list. Check out His list here: http://www.amazon.ca/exec/obidos/tg/cm/mem...4169413-7566455 Peace

You should preorder though the site link simply so that Anton can squander-- I mean use the money to maintain the site (commission sales and all). Give something back you bitches, and don't be so worried about having it that day. We've waited this long, what's another couple of days. Peace

No. Can I interject into this thread having not read it until today?

It's not so much he doesn't care, more that he doesn't read this message board. Peace

^ \- Slacker Peace

Everybody knows something first hand. Excuse me for being skeptical. Peace

It's not even a simile. In fact, it's not even in the same boat of literary devices. "the image" would have possible been appropriate. May I suggest a dictionary perhaps? google "define: <word>" searches are just as good. What is this thread about anyway? Peace

I agree... I'll see if I have the power to change the lyrics page. I don't think I do, but I will make a note of it for when Anton gets back. Peace ---edit--- No, I can't change it.

Last time he played here in my town security kicked us all out before Matt came out... It's a pity, but where they always have him play is large enough that they park the bus in the back of the building and divide the whole thing with a curtain. So you can't catch Matt on his way back to the bus since he just walks off stage and into the bus. *shrug* one day I suppose I'll meet him. Peace

I agree that this isn't a social issue. It's an issue of independent rights, and under the former definition of marriage groups where discriminated. I would say that if we were to consider it ok to discriminate against people for their sexual orientation, then why not repeal laws that discriminate against skin colour. We might as well make it illegal for certain ethnic groups to marry. And if that prospect strikes you as sick, then clearly the bill passing is a good thing. I must also say that I agree that religious groups are protected from being forced to preform same sex marriage. Although contra to my stance on the whole issue. We have to protect every bodies rights, which includes an individuals right to religious bigotry. Peace

Just a note: when a flag is disposed of there is a whole ceremony for it. That is vastly different to burning a flag for a political statement. I would like to note that I think you should have the right to burn your own countries flag in the form of a political statement. Preventing such actions is akin to preventing anybody from speaking negatively of the state. If we're going to condone that, then Orwell was right. Peace

hmmm... Re-Nationalization? Peace

It's going to be fun. I will drive the 5 hours to see MG. Peace

I am disappointed in the startling lack of unicode characters! Anton I thought better of you, it's "Prozz

Well he is my favourite artist. Ironically he is not the author of my favourite song. Peace

Well put. Peace

As with all things your entitled to your opinion. I'm going to state that I don't believe the fetus is anymore than a parasite on the mother, until it is born. Then it will breath and eat under it's own power. With exception it is still dependent on others, but it is not parasitic on another body. That's my opinion, so go ahead and refute. Peace

Men are debating it because it is a societal issue... coupled with the man/woman ratio of the board. Lauren is right, the issue of whether it should be allowed rests solely on the preferences of the individual. Though to bolster JM, since it is an issue of preference, then the law should (and does) provide people to have their own preference. Peace

mmm mushroom. That aside. You're now debating something entirely different. You're trying to define (based on no evidence, both of you) at what point a fetus becomes a living creature. That requires us to define what it means to be living. Jelly fish are technically living. Although they posses little nervous system, and no ability to act on anything more that instinct reaction. There are plenty of creatures capable of doing this. A tapeworm is one such example. This is a rather nasty transition back to the topic, but, if you get a tapeworm, would you have it removed. By all definition it has the same mental capabilities an early developing fetus. In fact is survives in much the same way as a fetus, parasitic of it's host. I think the real problem her is point of view. A human fetus is just that, human. The two argument sides result from the fact that some people differential it to be a collection of cells, and others see it as a potential human being. Both of which are incidentally true. An argument can be made a million ways for both sides. Matrix (I'm not trying to pick on you, but you have to most vocal opinion): Do you stand outside the red cross and yell at everybody who does go in and donate blood. That blood has the potential to save a human being. JM & others: Do you hunt neighborhood dogs on the basis that they do not have the upper brain functions to ponder their own mortality. In both cases you probably don't. They are extremist examples. But the point can be made that if we're going to go to one extreme, we might as well go all the way to the absolute extreme. Peace

Only partially... the question posed is does track X sound like Running for Home. Therefor it is a Matthew Good question, since it relates to Running for Home. Also I'm to lazy to do the two mouse clicks required to move it. Peace

By course you have found the exact nucleus of this issue. At what point does the fetus' rights override the rights of the mother. The two sides: 1) The fetus' right to life is superseding to all other individuals rights. This would be the case for all currently born people, in that nobody has the right to take another's life. One quirk of this is if the mother is in a car accident causing a miscarriage then the person who caused the accident would also be criminally responsible for the fetus' death. 2) The mother rights supersede the rights of the fetus. In this case the mother has total control of her body until the fetus is born, and thus relatively self supporting. One quirk of this is that the mother would also have the right to drink, smoke, and wrestle tigers, if she so chose. Peace

Yes it is my belief that voting Conservative will be like cutting off ones head to remove the cancer. One must admit that the Liberal have caused large problems, but Harper is not the answer. Peace