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I was thinking about that the other day. She seemed like a really cool person. I don't know if she even asked for money for the tapes. Had a lot of conversations with her back in the day and she was somehow always a very knowledgeable person about the band. I remember her last name but won't post it on here for obvious privacy reasons. Wonder if she posts here under a different name? I don't think she ever used her real one on the RFH message boards.

Man, I miss those days from Much Music, haha. The set ups they did and the bands they had were all just incredible. Really miss the Intimate and Interactive performances. It's possible her intro could have just been a reference to them having won recently. Certainly can't deny the possibility. However....it just seems like a really strange way to introduce the band if it wasn't actually at the MMVA's. You're right that most of the performers from the clip you posted are on way larger stages, but most of the performers there were international bands. If you look at Big Wreck's stage it doesn't actually seem that large comparably (despite looking like a really fucking cool set up) and both them and MGB were around the same level of popularity. Again though, as is being discussed in the other thread, given that the show was supposed to have been on September 24th, and that Geoff didn't leave officially until November 13, and given that Rich wasn't included in the Dec 1998 Chart Attack Mag interview, it doesn't really make sense for it to have been the MMVAs. That is unless Geoff stopped playing earlier than November 13 and Rich was only originally "filling in" for him until the band played a few shows with him and decided early in 1999 that Rich was their guy. The recording I have is a large collection of interviews and a couple performances from the late 90s era that a girl named Ashley from the old Running for Home message board sent me probably 17-18 years ago. I'll watch the performance again to see if I can't find anymore clues as to what the performance actually was for. I never really paid much attention because up until the last 24 hours I just always assumed it was the MMVAs, lol. Btw Adam , I was going to say, for the sake of quality, if you wanted to get a hold of the VHS tape I have and do some not amateur conversions- which is all I'm capable of- of the material I have, I'd be willing to send the tape to you if you had any interest. Though that's only on the condition that it wouldn't interfere with you converting the material you're already in the process of getting since I think we can all agree the the stuff you're already getting is a lot more rare and probably interesting. Edit- never mind. MGBFan101 helped prove it's not from the 1998 MMVAs. There is a clip of the band at that awards show (it's from the MMM Bio) where the band is filmed telling Bill Morrison he won best director and Geoff is with them, not Rich. Hence, this performance obviously and definitely wasn't from that event. Thanks for the clarification people.

My apologies for the crappy lighting. It really was a cool lighting set up for the performance, and looks tons better on my TV from VHS, but after about 5 attempts of trying to change the lighting in the room I was recording this on from my cell, I just gave up and used this one. Believe it or not this was the best I could get. On the other hand it is a pretty cool performance so there is that, lol.

Good question. After a little research....I honestly don't know. At first I was going to say for sure, yes because when Rachel introduces the band she seems to say "We're here with 1998 MMVA award winners, the Matthew Good Band". I don't know why she would introduce them like that, and what the band would have been doing there performing 2 random songs (they also did Rico), if it wasn't at the MMVAs. However, I was just looking through the Dec 1998 Chart Attack Magazine where MGB was voted band of the year, and inside it only has Matt, Ian, and Dave for the photo shoot noting that Geoff had "just recently" parted ways with the band. More to the point, it noted how they were supposed to play a New Years Eve show with Econoline Crush to usher in 1999. As such, unless they just had some random player fill in for that show, I believe it would have been Rich's first show with the band on Dec 31st, 1998 considering that after October 29th, 1998 they didn't play any shows up until that New Years Eve show (provided Chad's site is correct- http://mattgood.plastic-soldier.com/tour-1998.php ) The issue with that theory though is that the 1998 MMVA's apparently happened on September 24th, 1998, so Rich would have had to have joined the band before December, which doesn't fit with the time line of the CA mag interview. As such there are only a few answers I can think of: 1- It was indeed the 1998 MMVA's and Rich simply wasn't an "official" member of the band yet. Hence why he was there for the September 24th performance, but not included in the Dec 1998 photo shoot for Chart Attack. 2- Rich's first show was indeed actually on Dec 31st, 1998 meaning the date listed online for the 1998 MMVAs is wrong, and that they actually did the 98 MMVAs in the new year of 1999 (though this seems unlikely as it would sort of defeat the name of awards show). Anyone else have any other ideas?

It's coming. I finally got a good frame capture from my TV to cell phone and uploaded it to Youtube, but the lighting was just terrible on account (I think) because of the lamp in my living room being on. I'm gonna try recording it again tomorrow night with it off to see if it makes a difference. Hopefully it will and then I'll post a public link here.

Here's another (only a year and a half later than I said I would, lol, sorry). I think I'll upload their 1998 Much Music Video Awards performance next in a separate thread (probably later this week).

Fair enough. Thanks for the update, Adam, and thanks for putting in the effort to get this stuff in the first place. I think I speak for a lot of us when I say it means a lot. Good luck with the process.

Just out of curiosity, any chance you'd be able to give us an estimate of how long you think it will be before you're done converting and uploading? Not trying to be impatient, but just want to manage my expectations, lol.

That is so frickin cool, man! Love the Die Hard lyrics, lol. Really looking forwards to watching/hearing this and to reading about how you got a hold of it. Good for you :)

This. Well said. I see it from both sides though. I get where both you and UglyRedHonda are coming from, and I agree overreactions are unnecessary/unhealthy, but I also acknowledge not having bipolarity, and not being famous, that I have no idea what it's like to put myself out there and have others be able to judge me and try to frame other's perceptions of me. Indeed, I wish he wouldn't let other people's perceptions of him get to him (because choice is a choice), but at the same time, even as a non famous, regular person, I get how stressful social media can make a person and have considered deleting both my Twitter and Facebook profiles in the past just to get away from the constant arguments and perception views that I think others might have of me. In fact the only reason I haven't is because I think having dialogue with others about political issues is a worthwhile pursuit. Personally though, if taking a break from social media is what Matt needs, I actually think it's a great idea. Hopefully it will do his mental well being some good which is the only thing at the end of the day any of us should care about.

Just a complete guess/speculation on my part, but Raine and his wife are fairly liberal/progressive individuals when it comes to politics. Absolutely nothing wrong with that, but Mark is a bit more center/right and has been known to generally shun the Hollywood, left style politics that most in that area are a part of. Given the recent controversy surrounding him getting paid waaaay more than Michelle Williams for the reshoot of "All the Money in the World" (something I considered just simple business since he is more popular, and thus higher paid in general, than Michelle) I kind of wondered if Raine and Chantelle considered him an example of unfair male dominance in the industry. Again though, complete speculation on my part and I have no evidence to back that idea up. I never asked Raine about it afterwards as I wasn't interested in starting an unnecessary debate, lol. It's just the only reasoning I can think of unless Raine has actually met him in person in the past and just had a bad experience (which, given where Raine lives, wouldn't be impossible by any means now that I think about it).

Yeah, like I said to plasticsolder, it was pretty surreal. That's about the only word I can think of to describe it. Getting to play with musicians of that kind of talent, experience, and influence was something else. And thanks for the constructive feedback and nice comments about the end. Honestly, while I tried to make it different from what he did, it was pretty much all inspired by Joel Shearer and the work he did with OLP back in 2005/2006. Obviously I'm nowhere near as an accomplished guitar player as him, but the lead guitar work he did on Superman's Dead added so much depth to what already was a great song, it made me realize how much could be done with it given that the song is, at is essence, a very stripped down and raw piece of beauty.

I am amazed at how good he sounds despite the fact that he can barely move here. He basically plants himself in the same spot, almost the entire song. Good video, man. Agreed. I'm amazed but still wish he would have just cancelled the last few dates. At least it's almost done though.

While I don't have much to add to this thread, I mainly just wanted to say it's been a pleasure listening to an in depth and honest debate between people about Jordan Peterson. I still happen to agree with Sly Botts and Idioteque wth regards to Dr. Peterson, but it's refreshing to read/listen to someone like AndyDanger85 intelligently discuss their issues with him rather than just resort to the usual angry hyperbole and straw man arguments his attackers usually resort to. If more people argued the way you do Andy I think Jordan would have a lot less support. In my opinion, one of the reasons so many people flock to his side is because they see his detractors act like this: and then understandably become disgusted by their vehement and emotional vitriol. At least that's what happened with me, which then made me want to go see what the hell all the fuss was about. Which then led to me watching and reading a lot of his stuff and finding "most" of it- though not all mind you- to be fairly reasonable. That then led me to agree we are facing a fairly large shift of people to the far, far left (a position I believe is supported by a lot of other situations we've seen in North America in the last 5 or so years, including Yale: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ZVEVufWFI, Evergreen State College: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo-BGLoCDZU, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cMYfxOFBBM, and Wilfred Laurier University: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/lindsay-shepherd-delivers-a-wake-up-call/article37033031/). That's not to say there hasn't been a shift to the far right either though (as has been documented with the mosque shooting in Quebec last year and the Charlottesville car rampage of last summer ) but again, that's also why I think Peterson is even more worthwhile in that he tries to pull the types of men prone to buying into that nonsense away from it, as can be seen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BoOdMx_zDU And here: https://jordanbpeterson.com/psychology/on-the-so-called-jewish-question/

Lol, I'll be paying it off on my credit card for a bit, no doubt. The crowd thing wasn't too bad. I really am used to making an ass of myself in front of people so that didn't bother me, haha. What was more on the back of my mind was screwing up in front of the band, but like I said, they were all really friendly and inclusive (before and after considering I met Duncan and Jason in the elevator on the way down to the lobby before the show and that Raine was still willing to make time to talk after the performance). I had to laugh at Raine getting bothered by me mentioning Mark Whalberg's name at the start, lol. But yeah, it was definitely fun and surreal. Thanks for the feedback! I would say so. Got to go in way early and set up my equipment. Afterwards I was literally the only person in the venue other than the sound crew (who were all awesomely helpful and friendly guys), got to watch them set up, and then watch Jason and Duncan practice to backing tracks of deep cut songs I hadn't heard for a while as they waited for Raine and Steve :) Right on, that's good then. That was the hardest part so if I was going to screw up majorly anywhere, it would have been there. Good to know. And thanks for the kind words, Stwlegend. Glad it sounded decent. It was definitely fun and humbling to play with guys with that much experience and talent.

Is he doing better though? Wasn't aware there was confirmation of anything one way or another. Only comforting thing I've been able to find about the entire thing was this tweet someone sent out about a doctor being in the crowd and immediately jumping up on stage with the band. I wonder if that was the girl in the video up on youtube. And right as you are that it's bizarre for people to ask how you were doing, being another hard core fan, I do kind of get it. Even though we don't know Matt, his life's work and his interactions with all of us over the last 2 and a half decades have meant an indescribable amount to so many of us. Even though it might sound weird, the fact that his health is in jeopardy is as disturbing to me as if it were a family member of mine. To be honest, even though it's irrational because no one outside his camp could have known how bad it was, I still sort of feel guilty. I talked to him briefly on Friday at the sound check and gave him a couple gifts with a letter saying thanks for all the years of music. Knowing that he was unwell I wish I had told him that none of us would ever hold it against him if he needed to take a break. I know he said he was doing this for his kids, but still, even though I know it wouldn't have made a difference in his dedication, I still wish I had said something with regards to it.

This might seem like a strange statement/question, but over the years I've come to realize there is a difference between what someone who creates something sees/hears and what someone watching/listening hears. When I was younger I would write and record stuff that I thought was just fantastic...until I'd listen to it a few years later and realize it was out of tune and time. I once even recorded a cover of Giant which was heard by around 1000 people online before I realized, despite the instrumentals being good, the vocals were not really in tune with the rest of the song, (something I really wish someone would have had the heart to tell me before hand, hahaha). I've gotten better with that kind of thing over the years, but I'm sure I can always learn more. Anyways, with regards to the subject of this post, due to OLP being a pretty damned cool bunch of guys, they put up a package through Pledge Music this tour that allowed fans to play a song with them during soundcheck if they wanted. I decided to purchase said VIP package because...well, it's OLP and they're not only legendary, but probably one of the most influential bands in my life (plus I wasn't sure if they'd ever do this again). Long story short, I got to meet the band and play my own made up lead guitar on Superman's Dead. Everyone was incredibly down to earth, friendly, and inclusive. With regards to the performance, with the exception of a few slight mistakes, I think I managed to do everything I meant to without doing anything drastically embarrassing. Steve and Raine both seem interested in what I had done afterwards and the audience politely cheered after the song. Thing is, like I said, for me there is usually a difference between what I hear and what others hear and I don't know if Steve, Raine, and the audience were actually interested or just being polite because they're a bunch of nice people. So, I figured I would post this here to get some honest feedback. I'm not looking to be coddled or praised, but mainly am just interested if anyone who takes the time to listen/watch this can tell me if how I played/performed was adequate or if there were issues that can be clearly noticed. Not gonna hurt my feelings if there as I'm really just looking to get a gage of where I am right now as a musician and constructive criticism is always helpful when it comes to improving. My guitar was a little low on the volume side so it's admittedly a little difficult to hear at times. We start playing at the 4:15 mark (Steve was enamored by my dad's guitar that I was playing so he kept asking me questions about it for two minutes which led to me having to keep taking my ear pieces out to hear and answer, lol). https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Hjl-TGTtVZUXFs8DNDgim6q3QX95N8AN/view (Credit to Girl for being super awesome and recording this for me).

Good for you :) Is Blake sick now too? I know he said he wasn't feeling top notch on Friday but I thought he just meant he went a little too heavy on the booze the night previous or something. He's a nice guy. I got to meet him briefly as he was finishing paying for his room at the resort in the morning. Just said hi and that I really appreciated all the incredible work he does with Matt. He was really down to earth and appreciative of the support.

Tonight's show in Calgary was great, especially considering how Matt was feeling. He did not look like he was doing well during sound check (lack of sleep and the infection he has playing a role in that I believe). He couldn't have gotten more than an hour and half of a nap between soundcheck and the concert, but hot damn, him and the band not only powered though but put on a strong show. He sang some much higher points during SLAS than he does on the album and it was a pleasure to see the energy everyone put into the show. OLP was fantastic as well. Raine even dedicated In Repair to Matt and discussed the stigma surrounding mental illness. Over all it was a damned pleasure to be around to watch. Great concert.

You know what, I apologize man. That was a comment by myself that wasn't needed and I really do need to learn to be less judgmental. You wrote an honest and in-depth piece and the fact that you're still not a huge fan, despite Matt changing his tune, proves it is your own opinion. Music is subjective and everyone is allowed to have their own tastes. Nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree. Kudos on getting the article published.

Yeah, most likely. I just remembered something about Massey Hall. Couldn't remember the exact date. I agree. I never heard anything about Mike having said anything negative before or after that. Matt himself has even admitted to being in the wrong with that whole thing on account of it being more the result of a side vent related to his frustration with regards to all the inner band turmoil with MGB. https://soundcloud.com/cfoxvan/raine-maida-and-matthew-good-on-putting-old-feuds-to-rest-and-touring-together No offense to the guy who wrote this, but wow....someone needs to learn to have some of their own opinions.

They played a show together back in the summer of 2015 in Sylvan Lake, Alberta. I guess they talked a bit there. Plus I thought Matt said something in the past about Duncan having helped record some of the Massey Hall show back in 2008, and I know him and Jeremy were friends for a bit anyways as Jeremy did a drum solo during his Not So Private Banter concert with Jay Baruchel back in 2014.

How are Bullets and especially Something Like a Storm translating live? All that people have posted on Youtube for this tour are the popular MGB ones like Load Me Up, Apparitions, and The Future is X-Rated (because of course it's not like we have enough of those floating around online....). I'm really looking forwards to hearing stuff from SLAS live in Calgary (hopefully). Also, apparently Matt and the band did Time Bomb again with OLP last night. Hope they throw an OLP song into their set list eventually.

Wow, good on you, man. Thanks for at least putting in the effort. I think a lot of us definitely feel the same way. Even if worse came to worse and they were only willing to give a days worth of access to the archives to someone even a phone video just filming the TV it was playing on in the archives would be better than nothing. I did that with a couple old VHS interviews I had from Much Music with Matt that I thought were worth uploading before the quality degraded any further. It's not great quality but it's still nice to be able to view none the less: Her name is Anne-Marie Mediwake. If anyone wants to give it a go they can do so here: https://twitter.com/AnneMarieAMK?lang=en The original posted clip on Twitter is here: https://twitter.com/YourMorning/status/958825971511050240

Hahaha, I get where you're coming from man, and definitely appreciate the point that even when people change they're still sort of the same person. However, I'll still argue the idea that Luke would never even think about killing Kylo is based upon a lack of consideration from Luke's own history, and that based on your own reasoning what he considered/did (both in the short term and long term) is not out of line with the Luke everyone knew. First off, we have to think about everything he saw, endured, and knew as a result of the actions of his father. Luke found his uncle and aunt killed by storm troopers loyal to Vader (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTKHZN8c2L8); he watched him strike down his greatest mentor (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq51w34Hg9I); he lived through Vader's empire genociding his sister's entire fucking planet (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0qLzsIhUMk); he had to deal with him torturing Leia and Han (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5rqOIPIIXs), and then suffered his father chopping off his own bloody hand (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6sj89xgnl4). And that's not to even mention the slaughter of the younglings at the temple after receiving Order 66 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BN3921owBQ), the murder of dozens of rebel solders (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxL8bVJhXCM), or when he choked out his own wife (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjRHu5ysB94, an action that would ultimately cause her to not survive giving birth to Luke and Leia and leave them as orphans). Then there are all of these things (https://screenrant.com/star-wars-darth-vader-disturbing-acts/), though I don't know if a lot of those are cannon or not. Given all of the above, for Luke not to have even "considered" taking a route where the means justified the ends could have been argued as unrealistic because more than anyone else he knew what would happen if someone as powerful as Kylo turned down the same path as Vader (which he ultimately did). The fact the he considered doing it while Kylo was sleeping could either be considered as a show of how utterly terrified he was in that brief moment, or an act of mercy in that he didn't want him to suffer extra pain. Secondly though, you said it yourself- even if we change, we are still the same KIND of person (at least underneath all the walls and layers we put up) and what matters in the end the most is our actions, not our thoughts. Yes, he "very, very, briefly" (about less than a second and described as a passing gust of wind or something if I remember correctly) thought about going through with killing Kylo because he was terrified Kylo might go down the same path as his own father (something that ironically helped in part cause the very thing he was afraid of- which is another good theme to be explored regarding how fear sometimes causes exactly what it's trying to prevent, but I digress). The important thing that everyone seems to miss in this debate is that he didn't kill Kylo; he chose to spare him which is exactly what young Luke would have done, and that is the only thing that counts when it comes to his character. We all think about things that are wrong and screwed up at different points in our lives, but what matters is what we do, not what we think. In this case Luke unfortunately landed in a bizarre grey area very briefly between those two actions and, given the timing of when Kylo woke up, it didn't matter that he had already decided against it- all that mattered was Kylo thought he was going to kill him which is what led to him revolting/fleeing and thus helped lead to this new trilogy. To me that makes sense and is a realistic jump point to start the story again.