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Giuliano Zaccardelli has resigned as RCMP commissioner because of what he has labeled inaccuracies in his testimony in the case of Maher Arar

You and me both pal, you and me both.... Layton definetely looks like Lenin, it's rather hilarious. And right now im pissed off at him, at first he gives a vote to his party regarding the war in Afghanistan and they vote overwhelmingly to oppose the war. Then he decidedly flips his decision on his parties stance by saying "we're really not against the war, just the way the war is being conducted". So much for democracy!

I don't really mind that he holds duel citizenship, a lot of people do these day's, my girlfriend's sister has British citizenship and Canadian. To me even if he were PM having duel citizenship doesn't really bother me either, especially because it's France.. i mean.. c'mawwn. Their not going to do anything wild and wacky for a while so it's not like there would be a huge problem. When it comes to deals with the French, maybe there's a conflict of interest there. Although I dont mind all this, because i dont believe in pledging allegiance to any state. I think though that most Canadians will be rubbed the wrong way by this, and it will probably be a major downfall for him election time.

I guess with his comment's toward's women he's got some making up to do with the women folk. ;) i dont think it was really towards all women, i think it was a well timed insult on belinda, which i enjoyed. "Stick to your knitting", a comment made to MP and former leader of the NDP, Alexa McDonough, during a radio debate McKay has twice made comments about women. So i can use the plural sense :angry:

hehe definitely. It's really important to get your news from as many places as possible. Id suggest people who are interested in the media to compare the BBC, or Aljazeera, to Fox, CNN, and even CBC. They are all quite different, but most importantly is whose interests do they serve? I think that

hehe, i know i miss freshman year.. best time of my lliifee but im still having fun so no worries. But yah, nothing beats a new pair of socks.. i dont know why i just like how they feel lol.

ppfffttt WHAT? lol i almost blew my coffee all over the screen! That was not a good come back man, it was sooo corny! I realy expected more out of old Stevo.. But then i remind myself he has the personality of a brick wall.

heh yah, but thats because we also talk in the "real world" lol. Sweeeeeet thanks for putting in the Other option!

I am curious where people get their news and why they choose to get their news where they do. Personally i check out a lot of places on the net, including DailyKos, i have an account with them and GNN where i post articles and read etc. Anyone else into indy media or media in general? I put this in the political thread because media in my opinion is inherantly political (just look at the owners of most major media news outlets). Annnnddd Go. EDIT: I forgot to make "other" a choice, so if it is other, please post which it is.

Spoken like a true college kid. For me, i mostly asked for cash, an mp3 player ( because my old one was one of those first mp3 players that now bites the big banana) and so i also asked for socks, annd uhh yah, thats about it. Im going to buy myself stuff since most of my "presents" are online.

I guess with his comment's toward's women he's got some making up to do with the women folk. ;)

I concur... way too over-rated

It's pretty depressing but important to know. i say, 9/10

Yah but i think Liberal's, Conservatives and NDP all want to be "the" federal party in Quebec, i think that's why so many voted for this resolution. They are all jockying for Quebec votes federally, which could spell the end of the Harper government since i think 74% of Canadians ( maybe 77? i cant remember the exact poll number) disliked this resolution. So it'll be interesting to watch, i think none of the parties wanted to look as though they were not in favour of the resolution because of the nearing political campaign. ( I am speculating here, since minority gov'ts never last long) maybe 50% of those 75% who disagreed lived in Alberta? Then it wouldn't change anything. i'm just kidding around (sorta). In the end i don't think this changes anything much. In 2 years this will be completely forgotten (until election time when people bring it up, then it will go away again). But hey. You look at the last referendum, which i remember watching the results coming in on TV, and the vote was as close as you could get. Maybe if the next vote is close and this "nation" thing swings a few people the other way it could mean the difference between 49% & 51%. Who knows. Wasn't Alberta & B.C. gonna seperate? When do we call them nations? hehe Probably ! In fact the demographics are changing in Alberta's favor, i believe they will soon have a bigger pop then Quebec which means that the West might get more a voice in Canada now. I think it'll probably be forgetton to, its an ill-defined concept which seems to me cannot have any force without some sort of referendum and an amendment to the constitution. hehe In fact i was in B.C. ( the many 5 years ago it's been) and they were talking about seperation, good times!

Indeed, the idealogical underpinnings of the PNAC are a big part of the decision making of Bush & Co, in fact, if you read their stuff, you can predict the actions of the White House. Well, sorta.

lol they don't call it the bored because the people on here AREN'T bored.. lol

Yah but i think Liberal's, Conservatives and NDP all want to be "the" federal party in Quebec, i think that's why so many voted for this resolution. They are all jockying for Quebec votes federally, which could spell the end of the Harper government since i think 74% of Canadians ( maybe 77? i cant remember the exact poll number) disliked this resolution. So it'll be interesting to watch, i think none of the parties wanted to look as though they were not in favour of the resolution because of the nearing political campaign. ( I am speculating here, since minority gov'ts never last long)

Hmm, well it's quite possible, I don't know whether or not they did have extra powers or anything, but i know he didnt want to loose his equivalent of a veto, which was the opting out and the restitution. Unfortuntely he did, but later negotiations allowed for S.33 the notwithstanding clause which helped the Constitution get passed since provinces wanted more autonomy then the Constitution was really letting them have. Anyhow, either way, the French were here before the English, and the aboriginal's helped them survive the relatively harsh climate and then the English came ( i think) so although i don't even like to use the word "found" because Canada wasn't found, it was calculated genocide and conquered, the French and the English ought to be considered the first who did it. LOL if they want to be the "founding" people, then that's fine with me, they can pay back the resitituion i think is needed for the aboriginal's in Canada. But that's just my point of view, not everyone will agree to that lol. EDIT: much more on the hand's of the English just for the record if my history is correct. Started with treatys of land given by both French and English to fight their respective sides using aboriginals and then when the English eventually won it was one calculated land grab after another.

The night of knives i believe you are referring to. The formulae that they agreed on (hopefully my memory serves me correctly) was the 2/3 50% rule, but what that had changed was the Victoria formula which was basically 2/3 plus 50% but with added clauses that allowed for provinces to opt out of resolutions WITH restitution for opting out, so that each province was given the equivalant of a veto. When that was changed i dont really know if it was specifically done by the "english" provinces per se because New Brunswick was there and they are a bilingual province, which of course came later, but still, i am not sure if it was purposefully to leave the french canadians out of being a founding people. Esp since Trudeau had made the constitution with a lot of recognition for Quebec and the french language in general, ( not exactly what the PQ wanted but yeah). It was a pretty awful thing they did to Levek ( i think im spelling his name correctly, the Quebec seperatist premeir at the time). To my knowledge they left him out because they felt he would not agree to anything that had to do with the constitution ( which being a seperatist, he probably wouldn't have, but who knows really maybe he would have). They did it in the skechiest way possible in the middle of the night and decided on it at 4 am and then at breakfast when Levek came down to negotiate they already had and he was justifiably pissed off. And so, Quebec has not signed onto the constitution, but is still subject to it, because of the Supreme Court decision which said that no particular province must support the constitution, there only needed to be a substantial amount of support from all provinces, which i guess they had since Quebec was the only one that didnt sign on. lol And im going to end my history lession lol.

Well also, the thing about that is that for Quebec to seperate, they need to negotiate with the Cree who currently have and agreement with Canada, and Quebec, so it's actually a lot more difficult to do. I just went over this in my law class and theres a whole paradox to Quebec leaving Canada. If Quebec were to try and leave it would have to negotiate and use the amendment formulae that is set out in the Constitution, so it would need to use the National Formulae specifically, which is the 2/3 50% rule. (2/3 of the provinces combining 50% of the population). So if they were to just have a referendum, this would not be enough to leave Canada. They would need to get 2/3 50% of the other province in Canada to agree to them leaving, but here's the tricky part. Quebec doesn't recognize the formulae, so since they didn't sign on to the Charter but are still bound by it, the only way for them to sucede would be to accept the charter, and then try and use it to leave, which would more then likely end in failure. It's very doubtful that other provinces would agree to the changes that have been put forwarded by the seperatists. Like the idea of a economic tie with Canada, so that they would hold duel citizenship and a veto on decisions concerning Canada and 25% of the seats in the house of commons, etc, these are all stipulations that are basically regarded as unacceptable to most of the major parties. Anyway, that's my input for the day lol

Yah i was ganna say the same thing actually, Cree leaving Quebec? I am confused.

What bothers me in a ll this is the talk about Harper making some sort of "historical" statement, Mulroney already tried this with Charlottetown Accord as said above. It's quite annoying in that respect. Personally I dont know how viable it would be for Quebec to leave Canada, but if they did, I hear that the Cree with have most of that province in land claims. That'd make me happy. lol

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hahaha yah, i really thought those hicks were ganna fuck him up... wow.. well, who knows, maybe Yuppies can be hardcore at times.. lol nah.. this one was just rare.

hahaha dude when i wrote that i was half asleep it was the middle of the night lol oops, i totally didnt see that at all lol