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First to figure out a better way....Stop Caring What Other People Think! Worked for me... Yes...quoting MG...thats right... ;) Let the devil have your soul and you shall be free

What The Fuck?!

Another issue, which I thought of at the start, would be hacking. If these things are wireless and through satellites they are no infallible. This would NEVER reach PR campaigns thats for sure and I'm sure government already has this thread tagged for keeping an eye on. But I digress. I mean if someone can hack into your cell phone to access phone records and videos that you may have on there then it can be done with a wireless implant that is inside your skin. Besides I'm sure the place they will likely end up putting it is inside your head. There's a whole different area of problems with that.

Very well put. Can being be a cruelty given the right DNA? Well i don't know, if i had my brain that i do now, but the body of a rat, and knew that i wasn't suppose to be in the body of a rat, then yes, horribly so. But if you knew nothing else then maybe you would only progress as far as a rat would because of your surroundings. There's just so many goddamn variables in this theres a lot to consider in terms of morality... Id like to explore this a bit further, why isn't our genome sacred? Should we make no things sacred as a culture? Or are we strictly talking the furtherance of scientific understanding which must never be stemed? Also does being human take into consideration a holistic understanding. For example, are you only human when you have the DNA of a human, and are physically a homo sapien sapien? Does adding these together make you human? Is human simply creating artistically, intellectually? Is it all that we simply do/think/ etc? Unfortunately I don't have much time to debate this right now as I have a tonne of work to do, I'm currently on my lunch... I'd like to first say that this is a very intersting topic and so far all points are valid, well done gents. I have posted two definitions that I think would be beneficial to this debate as no one has defined the two as of yet. Supercanuk, I was wondering which definition you were using for "sacred", hence the multiple definitions. I think the more important question would be, Why would our genome be sacred? What is so sacred about it? It's still made up of molecular particles just like everything elses genomes. There is nothing special about them other than the fact that it's human genomes. This reminds me of The Allegory Of The Cave, which states that if all you know is what you see then perception = reality. That you won't know about anything that you don't see, or experience, if you don't know what it's like to be anything other than a rat then you won't know any difference...you'll just be a rat. If you were a rat for a long time and then told that you were human you wouldn't believe it at all, you'd think that it's not reality at all. Again what do you mean by sacred? Do we hold things in high regard? As a society I would say no, only because we are so willing to kill ourselves, to kill others, and to destroy our own world and way of living. In today's society nothing is sacred anymore, not in the sense that it was in the days of old. We are human because of all of that, not just simply because we are creative, intellictual, or because of DNA. We are human because all of these things combine to make us human, our experiences that we have, our thoughts that are developed through these experiences, our ability to think and learn. We are who we are because we have never known anything else. This next example will even challenge what I have just said: Say you were lost as a baby and some type of animal raised you to be one of them, and that is ALL you ever knew, nothing less and nothing more. Would you still be human? Or would you be that animal that you have raised to become? Cheers,

Are you dead yet? Cause it's likely alreayd happened and the public just doesn't know yet.

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Which brings up another thing, is human conciousness only a human property? I mean all lifeforms have a concious whether sub concious or not....right?

Indeed it is Prometheon. So far there is no actual definition of "what is human", there is too many variables to come up with a definitive answer to that question. We may never have an answer to it.

I take it that's a pet peeve of yours Lauren? People never seeing what they really are worth...or maybe the truth of what they really are worth bugs you? If one of us on here were to dissappear (like kirbenvost for example...don't dissappear though man, you give me something to read) would anyone really notice? Would they care in a few weeks, months, a year?

Well this is quiet the development in Bio-engineering, not sure where this will go. As interestin as it is though I'm not sure how I stand on this topic, I'm not sure if I'm for or against it. With the ever persistance of bio-engineering there is going to become a ever popular debate of ethics and morals when it comes to fusing species together, or created living breathing things for harvestin organs. This isn't something that is goin to go away, there will have to be laws and rules in place to try to govern the usage of this technology. Hmmm I wonder how the Military will use this breakthrough...

wow that was a little freaky to see, interesting ethical issues there though thats for sure. Being part human part animal makes for a whole new ballgame in the ethics/morals department of things. I'm rather curious as to what others think about this.

Sure Sure....nah it was more a night of chillin with friends and havin a good time. No need to get trashed for that.

Man your always trying to sell yourself.... And I'm always tryin to buy ya...how much?

figures...missed the sarcasm

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Go nuts? too late man. That'd be sweet to be able to crush someones car just because you can

nice, seems to be a lot of races lates. You and Ryan, me and kirbenvost, JTB and SilentShadow

Thanks man...aw shucks you can't get me so drunk that I"ll puke, thats a shame.

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Thank you jsunC for the re-iterization (sp?) of the courtesy rules. 900...I win. Good Night Everybody.

but bee wasn't bashing that thread....or am I missing your sarcasm? hey...go to bed supercanuk...sheesh it's past your bedtime man

whoops forgot to change that part...thanx jsunC

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