i'd say so. during the tip/the greyest of blue skies era, they were good for the sort of band they were. specifically on the latter of the two efforts, where they played a lot with different textures and atmospheres and things like that. they were good at being a "dark" kind of band. i dont think they wanted to be pigeon-holed in that genre forever, so they changed their sound, which meant that they started sounding like they did when they were a band of a different name: "rainbow butt monkeys". its amazing how theyve come full circle.
they might still fit into a "mediocre" catagory though, as i would never place them on the same level as some of my favourite bands. but i think that they had potential at a time... now they just stink.
that is a very good way to put it. They are really good live though!