shade

fear of a blank planet

I got it, but thanks.' Edit: listening now...the first song is this hilarious dance spoof Ween - The Friends EP No album art...heres the ugly mofos Download

a perfect circle - vanishing

I'm not reading anything past this. Go Fuck Yourself.

Ween released a new EP today, if anyone locates it upload plz

jethro tull - thick as a brick

bass communion - 16 second swarm

The new tomahawk album is kind of a cover deal. Every song is based on a native american one...and the last song is a lounge one from the time period. I can understand people not liking it.

I know. I did.

Seems we have another 'there is a right and a wrong' fella here. Fair Enough. In my opinion people can learn from any situation...if not than we all just better fucking die because life is not worth living. Yes, people need therapy and medication. However, it is completely up to them to decide to take the actions to help get those things. I admit most the things I said were not very sensitive to all situations...but when it really boils down to it...life is what you make it. What is the most traumatic thing that has happened to me? My dad hung himself...they found his body in his basement on new years 06. I have to look back and say, ya well I was having a fun time my dad was rotting in some basement. But what the fuck would I know about anything, I lack education. I am a fucking retard.

First off...you are the most condescending person to enter this thread. Congratulations. Second off...like I told ecnarf...I never said the drug was bad...I was arguing people can learn from any situation...perhaps you were too busy thinking of the best way to make me look like a dumbass instead of reading my posts. The rest of your post is going on about how I think drugs that help people are bad...which I have never said so what the hell? Get over yourself...this is some of the most self-righteous stuff I have ever seen. Edit: And before our highly educated friend types out his next sermon... ...I admit to being a dumbass...but at least I respect other people's opinions.

Giving them a drug or not wasn't even the original argument...so I don't really know what you mean. The argument was...can people learn something from horrible situations...and you seem to think they cannot.

Now you are just being silly.

Its better than listing off sob stories as some sort of support for argument.

Fine, go ahead and feel sorry for everyone all the time. Why should anyone even move foreward...when life deals you a shitty hand just sit back and let it take over.

So you are saying it is up to everyone else to help these people?

There is something you are not getting. The people you are describing may have such symptoms after an event...but it is up to them to overcome them. Or they may choose to ignore and not deal with their problems and continue down that spiral. Sure there are cases where the mind is just full out blown, but there are still chances for recoveries in even the worst cases.

Ya, maybe if there were candy canes falling from the sky and pink bunnies hopping all over the place. Life is half horrid...sure saying it is good for them is not right...however 'whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger' in my opinion.

YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKING ASSHOLE LOSER JERK CUNT LAMEWAD PIECES OF SHIT...MY OPINION IS THE CORRECTEST ONE KTHXBI GUYZ!11

this contradicts yours...partially. I will agree that there is no downfall if the drug works like you say...side-effects etc would play factors...The mind is too complex really... ...not that I know much about any of that. I was just arguing there are lessons to be from everything.

What the hell Lauren...I think it is a decent debate...close this thread? What would be the point of that... ...I'm sure some other people will come with decent input. I've noticed a lot of censorship on this forum when discussions start to get interesting

But the criminal is also the victim. See what I am saying here....The victim has to get over it...become a stronger person....Learn from it? You are killing me here

Think about it....Why would someone molest a child? Perhaps because they were molested as a child themselves and never got over it? Tons of cases like that... ...Who the fuck do we feel sorry for Narf?

Alright Mr.Black and White.

tomahawk - totem